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Martin Alvito · Apr 24, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Wow, the sync racing rumor lives 2 years later.

You don't need to sync to top 100.

You don't need to double Ram to top 100. I did it this year the same way I did it last year, which doesn't involve double Ram.

All you need is about an hour to land the box combo, and the skill to know what to do with it when you land it.

Quit QQing about the mechanics and learn to play better. Good play > attempts to 'cheat'.

aaje vhanli · Apr 24, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

Well, I'm interested in seeing what the top scores are without this exploit. That's about it, though. I always did pretty well without cheating. I'm curious to see how many people are affected by this change.

Rollerbeetle Racing has always been fun for me even if I've only ever been on the low end of top 100.

IKNOW · Apr 24, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56

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"Ram" in Rollerbeetle Racing got "fixed".

lol.

That is all.

Navaros · Apr 24, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

To really fix the issue they'd have to delete from the game every rollerbeetle that was awarded last time, since they were all gotten via using this ram exploit. That wealth is illegitimate, ill-gotten gains from an exploit. Exactly the same as the duped armbraces that got deleted for being ill-gotten gains. For those who already sold the ill-gotten gained beetles, they should have the amount of money and ectos they paid for it deleted from their account. Doing all of that would be fixing it. Leaving those ill-gotten gains alone is dirty pool.

Kashrlyyk · Apr 25, 2008, 12:16 AM // 00:16

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Originally Posted by Navaros

To really fix the issue they'd have to delete from the game every rollerbeetle that was awarded last time, since they were all gotten via using this ram exploit. That wealth is illegitimate, ill-gotten gains from an exploit. Exactly the same as the duped armbraces that got deleted for being ill-gotten gains. For those who already sold the ill-gotten gained beetles, they should have the amount of money and ectos they paid for it deleted from their account. Doing all of that would be fixing it. Leaving those ill-gotten gains alone is dirty pool.

Absolutely! ANets needs to be consistent!

Polgara Val · Apr 25, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

How do you know its been fixed? Did Anet officially say that the double ram trick has been fixed now?

Pol

evenfall · Apr 25, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by Polgara Val

How do you know its been fixed? Did Anet officially say that the double ram trick has been fixed now?

Pol

Update - Thursday, April 24, 2008
Fixed a bug that caused multiple copies of the Ram effect (in Rollerbeetle Racing) to interact incorrectly. This skill now cannot be reused until its initial effects wear off.

Polgara Val · Apr 25, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

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Originally Posted by evenfall

Update - Thursday, April 24, 2008
Fixed a bug that caused multiple copies of the Ram effect (in Rollerbeetle Racing) to interact incorrectly. This skill now cannot be reused until its initial effects wear off.

Cheers mate, never noticed that

Pol

maraxusofk · Apr 25, 2008, 02:27 AM // 02:27

its so stupid how doing things unconventionally is considered cheating. i suppose people who race cars and take corners by drifting are cheating as well because they arent racing how everyone else is?

Lykan · Apr 25, 2008, 02:38 AM // 02:38

Unless they fix the 25 of the same name in the top 100 im not going to bother playing.

roflcopter ownage · Apr 25, 2008, 04:31 AM // 04:31

the double ram was not an exploit or a bug. I don't really think they intended for it to not be done. They probalby just made it impossible now because of the people complaining about people having too many high scores. While this will reduce the number of high scores, the names of the people on the scores won't be any different I assure you. This update will ruin the consistent strategy of winning, once again making this game even more luck based than skill based.

roflcopter ownage · Apr 25, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33

and in response to the people constantly bring up that all the top racers sync: syncing BARELY HELPS even if you acutally did do it. The chance of syncing several people in is extremely low, and even if you did, you would still need to know how to get the high score, and get lucky enough for it. Syncing would not even be worth it, and I laugh at the people that acutally try to sync thinking that they will get a high score if they do.

pumpkin pie · Apr 25, 2008, 06:53 AM // 06:53

OMG, Did Not Know There Is A Bug! and here I was thinking the winners are uber good at controlling their keyboard or have dexterity +10 fingers. mwahahahaha....

Kashrlyyk · Apr 25, 2008, 07:14 AM // 07:14

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Originally Posted by roflcopter ownage

the double ram was not an exploit or a bug. I don't really think they intended for it to not be done.

I remember you from this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?p=3637808

You said the same bullshit there, too. But now ANet already have confirmed, that it is a bug! So why don´t you stop? If they intended for it to be done, they would have just updated the skill description, but they changed the skill.

Quote:

Originally Posted by roflcopter ownage

They probalby just made it impossible now because of the people complaining about people having too many high scores. While this will reduce the number of high scores, the names of the people on the scores won't be any different I assure you. This update will ruin the consistent strategy of winning, once again making this game even more luck based than skill based.

Are you saying that without that bug you can´t win??

TheHaxor · Apr 25, 2008, 07:47 AM // 07:47

oh mayne i iz so glad dat da cheaterz got w0ned cuz ppl liek martin alcheater need 2 stop bein bad n win stuff wit skill

dey shud all get perm ban

papryk · Apr 25, 2008, 08:08 AM // 08:08

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Originally Posted by roflcopter ownage

the names of the people on the scores won't be any different I assure you.

rofl...
dont be so sure...

Quote:

Originally Posted by roflcopter ownage

This update will ruin the consistent strategy of winning, once again making this game even more luck based than skill based.

so using a bug is skill based? ahahhahahaha omg

u win this thread

Sakura Az · Apr 25, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31

befor the update note on this, i never even knew this bug existed..

Lain Akazukin · Apr 25, 2008, 09:45 AM // 09:45

The same racers will still be on top, only they won't have like 20 top 100 scores this time. I never knew about this exploit and still got a 2nd spot the last time, so it won't make any difference to me.

Shayne Hawke · Apr 25, 2008, 11:07 AM // 11:07

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Originally Posted by Lain Akazukin

The same racers will still be on top, only they won't have like 20 top 100 scores this time. I never knew about this exploit and still got a 2nd spot the last time, so it won't make any difference to me.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. There's a long list of top racers that I can think have been around for a while: Ouija, Roflcopter, Ekelon, Marvin, Dragou, myself -- just about anyone who's won a Rollerbeetle. Lots of us have been winners from the start, and as I recall, Rofl and I didn't know very much about the Echoed Ram tactic until just this past festival. We still made top scores.

It's just like Rofl said: changing how Ram works doesn't screw up the top racers from getting the top scores. It just makes us think a little more, and it forces everyone to rely a little bit more on boxes. That makes this game more luck based than skill based, no matter how you hash it.

I can think two real problems in Racing that they haven't fixed: highscores probably still display multiples of names, and resigning probably still adds dishonor. The latter is somewhat of a tactic of preventing the former, but until they fix the former, all of these little adjustments they make in the arena are going to mean nothing.

Messy · Apr 25, 2008, 11:41 AM // 11:41

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Originally Posted by Navaros

To really fix the issue they'd have to delete from the game every rollerbeetle that was awarded last time, since they were all gotten via using this ram exploit. That wealth is illegitimate, ill-gotten gains from an exploit. Exactly the same as the duped armbraces that got deleted for being ill-gotten gains. For those who already sold the ill-gotten gained beetles, they should have the amount of money and ectos they paid for it deleted from their account. Doing all of that would be fixing it. Leaving those ill-gotten gains alone is dirty pool.

/signed
/signed
/signed
oh.... did I say /signed?

It's sad that some players feel the need to use exploits/ bugs/ cheats to advance and/or get things in the game.

Even sadder that they brag about their "accomplishments" (brb gotta puke).

Ok back, even way sadder that they QQ when the exploit/bug/cheat gets fixed.